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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Cross Picking and Metronome


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Hilly Strings - Posted - 03/06/2021:  11:27:45


Hi

I am working on cross-picking, following this approach 123,123,12

I can't seem to align with a metronome at 80BPM, the only success I have had is ensuring the 1 on the next block of 123,123,12 coincides with the next ping on my metronome.

By ping I mean Ping, tic, tic, tic

Any tips ?

J

Texasbanjo - Posted - 03/16/2021:  04:55:11


Are you trying to play triplets???? The 123 123 looks like triplets. If that's what you're trying to do, then the count will be off.

Try picking 2 strings to every ping on the metronome: 12 31 23 12 ..... would be counted 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &.

On cross picking you should be picking up down, up down, up down and so on, picking a different string on each up and each down.

Hilly Strings - Posted - 03/16/2021:  12:48:21


See the attached cross-picking example, this is what I am trying to count



Does it go 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & ?



 


Edited by - Hilly Strings on 03/16/2021 12:50:01


Texasbanjo - Posted - 03/18/2021:  04:58:01


quote:

Originally posted by Hilly Strings

See the attached cross-picking example, this is what I am trying to count



Does it go 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & ?



 






Yes, look at the notes above the tab.  They are 8th notes  and a full  measure of them is counted 1 &  2 & 3 & 4 &.  The tab does kind of look like triplets, but it is NOT triplets.



You should be picking up down up down up down for the entire 8 notes and counting them as 8th notes, not trying to count 3 notes as one beat.  That will definitely mess up your count.



In your example, the time signature would be 4/4/ time and each 8th note would get 1/2 a beat.  If you count it like that, you'll be in time.  Try it and see if it doesn't work for you.

Hilly Strings - Posted - 03/18/2021:  06:09:29


I think this exercise comes from the Trufire Bluegrass Essentials from Roberto Dalla Vecchia, the cross-picking pattern is Down Down Up, Down Down Up, Down Up

J

Texasbanjo - Posted - 03/18/2021:  06:39:04


quote:

Originally posted by Hilly Strings

I think this exercise comes from the Trufire Bluegrass Essentials from Roberto Dalla Vecchia, the cross-picking pattern is Down Down Up, Down Down Up, Down Up



J






That is another way to cross pick, so that is probably right.  I've done it both ways and when I was first learning, the down down up was easier to do than the  down up, down up.

Dick Hauser - Posted - 03/30/2021:  07:34:03


I use software that lets me change tempo and loop all or parts of tunes/exercises. Software like "The Amazing Slow Downer" and "Transcribe". I start out playing slowly and the software automatically loops and increments tempo by a designated amount. I gradually learn the tune and become able to play the tune/exercise faster.

I prefer using software like this for learning tunes and performing exercises. I can hear the pitch and sound of every note. Metronomes don't provide this. I sometime do use a metronome to become able to play a short complex noting pattern. That is about it as far as metronome use goes. I have software apps that are more enjoyable and effective.

Hilly Strings - Posted - 03/31/2021:  11:34:55


It's strange that you should mention that.

I have an accending scale that I practice.

When I play it against an audio recording of the scale I hit the notes every time, when I play it against a metronome I continually screw up, my ears have difficulty hearing the metronome whereas the recordings are clear. If I am learning a tune I tend to play along to a slowed-down track to get the timing. Maybe I should abandon the metronome


RobertoDallaVecchia - Posted - 05/06/2021:  04:01:54


Like Texasbajo said those are 8th notes, which means that every other note you play should match the metronome.
123, 123, 12 is useful to understand the pulse of the pattern, you need to accent the 1.

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