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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Having trouble progressing after initially learning a flatpicking song.


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everben - Posted - 01/11/2020:  18:16:58


So I've been playing for a few years now and have always had this problem.

I feel like whenever i learn a new song i pick it up pretty quick but after i can "play it" i have trouble improving on speed and smoothness

I'm just looking for some advice on how to improve after learning the song.

Any ideas?

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 01/11/2020:  19:32:57


Put it in TRANSCRIBE and use the speedup mode.

Texasbanjo - Posted - 01/12/2020:  04:51:37


I use Band in a Box, input chords to whatever song I want to learn/work on, and can set the tempo to whatever I want. Start off at a medium tempo and bump the tempo up 5 bpm and then 5 more as you get more comfortable with the song. Works for me. Might try that and see if it helps.

Usually, after you play a song over many times, it becomes almost automatic, you don't have to think about what chords, where to pick, etc., and then it should be easier to play it at a faster tempo. If you still can't, maybe you're too tense and that's actually slowing you down. Try to relax (easier said then done, I know) and see if that helps.

chuckd - Posted - 01/17/2020:  10:08:12


Slowly bumping up the metronome really works for me too.
I would like to emphasize going really slow too with the goal of finding where one might stumble. Be super honest with yourself about which parts you kind of know, focus on them and clean them up by going molasses speed, gradually increasing and inserting them back in.
I find that if I ignore the parts that trip me up a little, I'll bumble it, or (if I'm not playing with a backing track) play just that part a few times and keep going, not reinserting what I want to play.

plowboy - Posted - 02/27/2020:  13:54:31


quote:

Originally posted by everben

So I've been playing for a few years now and have always had this problem.



I feel like whenever i learn a new song i pick it up pretty quick but after i can "play it" i have trouble improving on speed and smoothness



I'm just looking for some advice on how to improve after learning the song.



Any ideas?






sing along the song. singing helps creates a bond with the instrument. make singing a habit and the guitar will become part of that habit as well.

Dick Hauser - Posted - 05/12/2020:  09:19:20


For playing with rhythm accompaniment that even remotely resembles a real situation, I prefer using software or a rhythm device over the metronome. I use both "Band in a Box" and my drum machine. Both have the advantages and disadvantages. The website "fbbts.com" has rhythm tracks that were created using "Band in a Box". They are free and can be downloaded. If you have software like "The Amazing Slow Downer" you can play those files and -

1. Change tempo.
2. Change key.
3. Loop all or parts of tunes AND automatically increase tempo.

The Amazing Slow Downer is relatively inexpensive and does the job. There are other products available that will do these things. If you are playing alone, having rhythm like this makes playing more enjoyable and could help improve your timing. You are forced to learn to play along with the rhythm. Both software and/or a drum machine can help you gradually improve speed with sacrificing accuracy/timing.

One more thing. If you see one of those small electronic pianos/organs at a garage sale, see if it has the rhythm feature. It can serve as a cheaper remedy than the solutions I described.

You should get "The Amazing Slow Downer". You can do a lot of things using it. I am 100% positive it is my most useful and frequently used music software. If I have an instrument in my hands, I am probably using this software for everything.

jhfiddler - Posted - 07/05/2020:  10:47:12


quote:

Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

Put it in TRANSCRIBE and use the speedup mode.






Glad to hear you recommend Transcribe!....(relatively inexpensive).  No yearly pay for use.  Just one time fee with download & key in case I need to download again.  I have that software and it is fantastic! I can open a song I love.  Isolate different portions of it & loop play it over & over.  Then slow it down & practice.  IF I WOULD ONLY DO THAT "PRACTICE THING" A LOT MORE!  frown

SpunTrees - Posted - 10/29/2020:  09:49:52


Strum Machine helps me so much! App and web based version

Dick Hauser - Posted - 11/11/2020:  15:48:26


Go to the "fbbts.com" website and download some tunes you play regularly. BTW, I am almost sure they were created using "Band in a Box". Get software that will allow you to control tempo, loop, etc.. I use "The Amazing Slow Downer". I use this app to play just about all of my recorded music files.

Steve Kaufman's "Bluegrass Guitar Solos That Every Parking lot Picker Should Know - Series 1" can help improve a persons flatpicking ability. This publication motivated me to play guitar more often. 20 tunes and 3 versions of each tune - "Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced. 6 CDs are provided. Sells for about $70 for the 60 variations. The author has recorded lots of useful information on playing techniques.

I am not connected with Steve Kaufman. I did buy Series 1,2, and 3 for this publication, and Series 1 is the best.

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 11/12/2020:  10:14:34


Solutions that generate back-up tracks won't help someone who needs work on their rhythm, an amount of musicianship is needed to play along with a generic back-up. That's why I recommend an app like TRANSCRIBE because you hear the actual audio that you are trying to emulate looped over and over.

ytterbium - Posted - 11/23/2020:  16:17:37


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