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musekatcher - Posted - 09/01/2008:  16:01:50


What's your favorite capo and why?

Jim Holland
Athens, AL

rdodger99 - Posted - 09/01/2008:  16:10:26


Steinberger NS, small, easy to adjust, works great.

Regards,
Rich

Tango_grass - Posted - 09/01/2008:  16:23:03


Shubb. Sounds good, easy to use...and when the rubber does wear out, if ever, $1 to get another rubber piece.

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bryankimsey - Posted - 09/01/2008:  17:32:20


Price/performance? Paige

Performance? Elliot



pastorharry - Posted - 09/01/2008:  19:21:06


Somehow I still can't see 100.00$ for a capo (although I would love an Elliot),so I use Paige and shubb.We did at test at the Balch residence and found the shubb tends to pull sharp-more so than the paige.I also use Kysers on my 12 string as they're the only ones that don't allow buzzes on the small strings, and they're also good for cut capo stuff. Aloha, PH

Isaiah 38:20

HD28 - Posted - 09/01/2008:  19:27:52


I use a Paige on my HD and it stays on the nut for easy access even when in the case (with the lightest tension)
I keep a Shubb in my Recording King case and use it when when jamming around the fire. I tend to keep it in my shirt pocket when not in use.
Both I feel are very good products and are well worth their price.

"I Pick a HD-28 99.999999% of the time."

Bird Dog - Posted - 09/01/2008:  19:45:45


Shubb.

Robin

Dale Farmer - Posted - 09/01/2008:  20:11:38


Shubb

Does anyone still use one of those elastic stretch capos? Has anyone ever been desperate enough to use a pencil and rubber band for a capo? The things we do when we forget to put the capo back in the case...

Dale

biznork - Posted - 09/01/2008:  20:41:05


Elliot. It's like a work of art.

pastorharry - Posted - 09/01/2008:  22:10:57


Reciently I saw Del McCoury using a Shubb, and when he wasn't capoed up he just hung it over his peghead between the 5th and 4th string tuners....so i tried it, you can't even shake it off it balances so well.Good to know while jamming. Aloha, PH

Isaiah 38:20

Martinplayer - Posted - 09/02/2008:  00:31:27


I used a shubb for years without too many problems. Then I came across a Dunlop Victor capo, Wow it's the best I have ever used.

Best regards
Bob

TonyH - Posted - 09/02/2008:  05:06:00


Paige.. like others, i place it at the nut when not in use and just slide it on down the fretbaord when needed. it works and its reasonable. + and +

musekatcher - Posted - 09/02/2008:  05:08:20


quote:
Originally posted by pastorharry

Reciently I saw Del McCoury using a Shubb, and when he wasn't capoed up he just hung it over his peghead between the 5th and 4th string tuners....so i tried it, you can't even shake it off it balances so well.Good to know while jamming. Aloha, PH

Isaiah 38:20



I've got a really nice ding on my upper bout from doing that, while forgetting its there, and standing the guitar up long enough for it to fall and bounce off the tortise binding and flake off a sizable amount of finish. But most folks are probably less scatterbrained than I.

Jim Holland
Athens, AL

twangtown - Posted - 09/02/2008:  05:17:39


Like Kyser the best, then Shubb, then Paige. I bought my first Kyser from the man himself at a festival here in Tennessee...I bought it for $8, Someone stole it a few years back...

"Live and learn...die and forget it all"

jasonh - Posted - 09/02/2008:  06:04:25


I like the Paige capos. Hard to beat for price, performance, and convenience.

bbarkow - Posted - 09/02/2008:  06:35:44


I use a G7th capo. The design works perfectly for me. You just squeeze it down over the strings, and it'll hold that pressure until you release it. I don't have any intonation issues with it.

You can park it on the headstock the same way.

I've used (and loved) Shubb in the past. I decided to try the G7th after I lost the Shubb at a jam. Now I'm a convert, I guess.



seanray - Posted - 09/02/2008:  06:45:16


McKinney~Elliot is my favorite though I have a Paige for back up and it works just fine too.


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TonyS - Posted - 09/02/2008:  06:53:40


Yes - I have used (and still have) the elastic stretch type from the 60's !
I currently have a Kyser for 6 and 12.

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ks banjo cat - Posted - 09/02/2008:  07:31:39


Recently switched to Paige. Prior to that used a Kyser & Shubb. My rankings of the 3 would be:
Paige
Shubb
Kyser (primary benefit is clamping on to the headstock - drawback no way to fine tune pressure on strings)

guitdawg - Posted - 09/02/2008:  08:17:18


Victor is the one!

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Breezecookie - Posted - 09/02/2008:  09:01:38


I use a Planet Waves NS that I store between tuner 5 and 6 when it's not in use (I tighten the screw enough to keep it from slipping). Anyone have a good way to store a Paige or Elliot on a guitar with a volute?

David Parker
Shelby, NC

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erstokke - Posted - 09/02/2008:  14:19:15


i use the G7th for guitar.

Here´s a trick for you with the G7th and other capos that have one open end: Place the capo at the fourth fret so that it doesnt cover the low E string. Then play in C. You`ll get nice highs as well as a really deep bass.

hernbone - Posted - 09/02/2008:  15:24:41


Elliot hands down

Tango_grass - Posted - 09/02/2008:  15:44:57


quote:
Originally posted by erstokke

Here´s a trick for you with the G7th and other capos that have one open end: Place the capo at the fourth fret so that it doesnt cover the low E string. Then play in C. You`ll get nice highs as well as a really deep bass.





Don't give away my secret! I like it also at the 2nd fret, then play D shapes. Drop E tuning, with no weird chord forms!

Chris,

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Humbled - Posted - 09/02/2008:  16:36:27


Uhm...Capo San Lucas, at the southernmost tip of Baja....

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Banjo Stan - Posted - 09/02/2008:  17:55:18


Elliott Capo for my Collings D1A.

Keyser on my Taylor 614 CE.



Stan Robins

Eric Skye - Posted - 09/02/2008:  20:17:04


I really like the Planet Waves. Last week I got an Elliot, and while I liked it a lot, I ended up selling it and keeping the Planet Waves.

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ScottB - Posted - 09/02/2008:  21:37:51


Paige

erstokke - Posted - 09/03/2008:  02:29:25


I discovered this trick by myself and thought I was on to something unique. Until I was at a concert the next week where a guitarist used EXACTLY my trick!

quote:
Originally posted by Tango_grass

quote:
Originally posted by erstokke

Here´s a trick for you with the G7th and other capos that have one open end: Place the capo at the fourth fret so that it doesnt cover the low E string. Then play in C. You`ll get nice highs as well as a really deep bass.





Don't give away my secret! I like it also at the 2nd fret, then play D shapes. Drop E tuning, with no weird chord forms!

Chris,

Visit Tango_grass on Mypace! Click here!
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The VZ Valley Boys





Yuletide - Posted - 09/03/2008:  12:42:26


I don't use capos much because they always feel like they're in the way. The Kysers are worse that way than the Shubbs. On the other hand, Shubbs are harder to operate with one hand. So I have and occasionally use both, but don't like either. Years ago I used the elastic kind, and still have a few around the house, but it would embarrass me to use them. Since nothing stuck out from them, they didn't feel "in the way" to me.

Yuletide Bob
New Glarus, WI

deleuran - Posted - 09/04/2008:  06:19:50


I have tried many kinds of capos in the 45 years I have played the guitar. Most of them are not made anymore, and for most of them I must say, they weren't very good.
In recent years I have used Shubb, which is pretty good, and easy to use, but lately I have found the "love of my life" when it comes to capos. A BMF Precision Capo. It is also made for banjo.
A couple of years ago I saw an instructional video with Tony Rice, who had a custome made capo that looked a lot like this. It is very slim and is so small that it almost feels like it's no there, and as Rice said, you can place it almost on top of the fret, so you won't have to retune so much, when you move the capo to another position. It's not cheap. It's 99$ at the Janet Davis Music store. As I live way over in Europe I have bought it mailorder, which puts a little extra on for postage. But I think it has been worth every penny. The best capo i ever owned.
bluegrasscenter.com/2-7bmf-g.html

And I am not payed to write this!!!


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brazad - Posted - 09/04/2008:  06:46:26


Fave capo? Elliott or McKinney/Elliott - have both, love 'em both

Why?

Ease of use.

No intonation issues.

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Gary
Albany, Ga.

Jim Yates - Posted - 09/04/2008:  10:06:15


I have found the best success with Shubb and Paige capos.
I have a Paige on my 12-string and on two of my banjos. If you tighten it just enough to stop the buzzing, you need very little retuning. The first thing I do when I buy a Paige is to turn the sleeve upside down so the gold letters are facing the fingerboard. I like the looks of the black sleeve better.
I like the Shubb a lot too and use it on my six string flat tops and my long neck mandolin.
I've tried the spring type capos like Keysers, but they seem to require more retuning when you re-place the capo.
I don't like the looks of capos on the headstock. I've even seen players who have both a Keyser capo and a tuner stuck on their headstock at the same time. Fine for some folks, but I find it unattractive. Luckily, I'm too old to look good in skin-tight jeans, so I have plenty of room in my pockets for capos and tuners. I also don't like those little pick holders, usually orange or yellow, that stick to the side of your guitar.

Jim
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Edited by - Jim Yates on 09/04/2008 10:09:18

shorty - Posted - 09/04/2008:  11:36:25


I have two, andI l Love them ! one is an Older Elliott and the Other is a MC kinney Elloitt , Both Made by My Very Good Friend Phil Elliott,

Jim Yarboro

wdan - Posted - 09/04/2008:  17:26:42


I prefer a Paige type capo because you can control the tension on the strings, a Kyser that just squeezes on has no control and can pull strings out of tune. Actually have a Neat custom made by Frank Neat of banjo building fame. It was given to me because I would not spend $100 plus dollars for a capo. Works great, very smooth.

JonT - Posted - 09/04/2008:  20:19:07


Shubb. For better or worse, that's all I've used for years. Maybe I should experiment?

Best - JFT

Chadtheguru - Posted - 09/05/2008:  06:54:23


quote:
Originally posted by JonT

Shubb. For better or worse, that's all I've used for years. Maybe I should experiment?



Ditto here. I've been thinking about trying something different because I haven't had my BR-160 for very long and although I haven't put a lot of effort into it, I haven't found a tightness(?) yet that doesn't buzz and doesn't make me re-tune a string or three. Maybe a Paige? They seem practical and affordable enough to try without a major financial commitment. (trans. "under the wife radar") Any ex-Shubb users prefer a Paige or similar?

Chad


Edited by - Chadtheguru on 09/05/2008 06:56:01

Jim Yates - Posted - 09/05/2008:  07:42:31


One advantage to a Paige is that you can, with a bit of difficulty, bend the bar that the sleeve goes around to fit the curvature of your fingerboard, causing fewer tuning problems.

Jim
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ks banjo cat - Posted - 09/05/2008:  13:56:35


quote:
Originally posted by Yuletide

I don't use capos much because they always feel like they're in the way. The Kysers are worse that way than the Shubbs. On the other hand, Shubbs are harder to operate with one hand. So I have and occasionally use both, but don't like either. Years ago I used the elastic kind, and still have a few around the house, but it would embarrass me to use them. Since nothing stuck out from them, they didn't feel "in the way" to me.

Yuletide Bob
New Glarus, WI

You might want to give the Paige a try based on what you did not like about the Kyser & Shubb. The Paige has a small profile and fits nicely behind the nut when not needed.

Dave

"Proud member of Camp Brigadoon - Winfield, KS"

steveprince13 - Posted - 09/05/2008:  18:37:15


Another vote for the planet waves NS. I use a Paige as well.

Paige Anderson - Posted - 09/05/2008:  20:21:21


I use a Paige capo........... It has a better sound on my guitar ( I use an HD-28) then a Shubb.

Mr. Bill - Posted - 09/08/2008:  00:29:59


Another vote for the Dunlop Victor. On my guitar and in my experience, Kyser and all spring clamp types pull sharp, Shubb works fine, though I have two dings in the top from the Shubb falling off the supposedly secure storage spot on the headstock; Plant Waves is a bit soft and the jaw closure is limited. I've had a Dan Crary (Paige style) and a Dave Elliott-made in Portland, OR...slimmer than a Crary-that's a good one. Those are bell brass and a bit spendy but not as much as the Phil Elliotts. I even got a Sterner, which is a good design in theory but it damaged the neck binding. I keep coming back to the Victor. It stores on the headstock or nut, tension is easily adjusted, it pulls less out of tune than any other I have used and, my favorite feature-the top bar can be shaped to match the radius of the guitar fingerboard! I've never worn out or broken a Victor. Thankfully Dunlop didn't change the design when they bought the Victor company and here's hoping they keep it on the market for a long time. I give 'em as gifts. I think they offer a good product for a minimal investment. I keep a Shubb as a back up and for those drop tuning tricks and double-capo adventures. I like 'em and require one for the banjo.

gutbucket - Posted - 09/12/2008:  11:10:19


I like the Paige capos. They put pressure downward equally on all the strings, and stow away above the string nut when not in use. The only problems is if the neck has a dart on the back behind the headstock. It doesn't store back there as well. I've used Kysers, but they throw the strings out of tune more then the Paige style capo's. The fulcrum point applies pressure on one side more then the other.

Not all who wander are lost. Some are just a tad bit confused.


Edited by - gutbucket on 09/12/2008 11:14:16

ZEPP - Posted - 09/12/2008:  12:03:05


I used Shubbs since the days when dinosaurs ruled the earth. I have found that most people who say they pull sharp have overtightened them or placed them too far back from the fret, or both. Once correctly adjusted for a particular instrument, they require no fiddling with, and can simply be snapped into place without pulling at all sharp.

OTOH, that "particular instrument" bit has always bugged me, as I have--and have had to play--so many differing instruments. G7 to the rescue! They do not pull sharp,they have the partial fretting capability of a Shubb, and are an instant fit on any instrument. I used to keep a Shubb in the case for each of my instruments; now one capo covers everything quickly, easily, and in tune!

Cheers,
ZEPP

sweets pal - Posted - 09/12/2008:  16:36:12


I have a Shubb. It's good, except on the first fret. Don't know why, but it makes my higher strings buzxz. Could be just the way I place it, what do you guys think? Or not tight enough? Do I need to crank it up a bit?

Jan

Regards, Jan

ScottB - Posted - 09/12/2008:  16:59:22


I have a Paige on all 3 of my acoustics. I place it right on the back edge of the fret to minimize pulling the strings out of tune.


Edited by - ScottB on 09/12/2008 17:00:31

Flatpicker - Posted - 09/12/2008:  20:34:23


I like the Dunlop Victor capo. It has a lot of pressing power, and a low profile.

Austin
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gutbucket - Posted - 09/13/2008:  05:07:53


quote:
Originally posted by sweets pal

I have a Shubb. It's good, except on the first fret. Don't know why, but it makes my higher strings buzxz. Could be just the way I place it, what do you guys think? Or not tight enough? Do I need to crank it up a bit?

Jan

Regards, Jan



Being closer to the nut, you might have to tighten it a little more.

Not all who wander are lost. Some are just a tad bit confused.

rdeputy - Posted - 09/13/2008:  14:42:57


I have Paige, Shubb and Kaiser capos. I like all of them for different reasons, but I like the simplicity of the Shubb most of all. The Paige is nice for parking it up on the nut when not in use as others have said. You can't do that with a Shubb without changing the tension. If I was playing a bunch of different songs back to back that required quick changes between capo and none, I'd probably select the Paige. When I practice I choose the Shubb. To each his own. Use what suits YOUR needs.

Rob

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thorstenj - Posted - 09/14/2008:  13:49:49


Hi, all. I have used a Sterner for a number of years now.
sternercapo.se/

I might buy another capo soon, not that I need one, but it is fun to change once in a while. Might get a Crary capo, does anyone have an opinion on his capo. I think it also takes up little space, just like the Sterner capo.

Thorsten

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