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DeltaJewel - Posted - 02/13/2010:  05:06:50


Back in the late 70's I bought one of the "Lawsuit Takamine D-28" copies. I didn't know Jack Flip about guitars at the time.. I had my first job with my first paycheck so naturally I was gonna blow the money on a new guitar. I liked the guitar.. but traded it off for something else a couple years later... I don't even remember what ......love and leave them... thats me.. !!
I never owned or looked at a Tak again until last Dec. when due to electronic problems on stage with my other "makes" I decided to invest in a couple of new stage guitars to do gigs. I could not help but notice so many country people play Takamines so decided to go try them out... I remembered the one I'd own in the 70's but could not recall anything special about it... I tell you these guitar have blown me away.. I would not compare them to Martins... The Martin experience is a different thing... Performing in clubs requires a different element from a guitar. It has to be work horse.... These Takamines are holding up great so far. We have the EG463SC, EG416S, and may be getting more now that we are so satisfied with them... Who else is pickin on Tak's out there tell us what model your using
Julie


Edited by - DeltaJewel on 02/13/2010 08:21:59

BoMac - Posted - 02/13/2010:  16:43:11


I believe I have one of those lawsuit guitars from Takamine. It's a 1980 model # F-340-S. Has some wear but plays really well.

sgtp3pp3r - Posted - 02/17/2010:  09:55:34


I had one of the lawsuit Takamines - a 12-string F400S. Beautiful guitar, but I sold it last year after I built my jumbo 12-string. I still have a more recent Takamine, a model EF360S that I bought new in 1986. Also an excellent guitar, with one of the best pickup systems I've ever seen/heard. And a real workhorse!

Here's the 12-string:



And the EF360S:



--Steve


Edited by - sgtp3pp3r on 02/17/2010 10:30:20

MitchellB - Posted - 02/21/2010:  21:14:33


I bought a new 00018 copy acoustic/electric Takamine back in the early 80s (I think somewhere in an Iowa music store). I mainly wanted an acoustic guitar that I could plug in on stage and small enough not to take up much room in the band-van when traveling. The guitar did what I wanted, but I never was satisfied with the acoustic sound and eventually traded it off. Maybe I just didnít keep it long enough, but it never seemed to improve with age like I expected.

sgtp3pp3r - Posted - 02/22/2010:  10:28:43


The F400S never had the deep bottom end that I've heard in some Martin 12-string dreadnaughts. After I built my Jumbo 12 four years ago (which has a THUNDERING bottom end) I decided to sell the Tak. I got $400 for it, and the buyer (who is a friend and customer) loves it.

--Steve

DeltaJewel - Posted - 02/22/2010:  20:05:07


You guys are right about the bottom end. I do miss that ... like I said they are not Martins for sure... but I am NOT NICE to my gig guitars... they take a beating.. electronics is the biggest problem... They have got to work.... I get so MAD when they don't work electronically... the guys in my band call me---- ( well you don't want to know what they call me ) anyway I hate to have to modify a beautiful Martin guitar with electronics ... it don't seem natural and then have some drunk come up to me and ask if they can play a song on it.... GRRRR!!! when I am in the middle of a set.... These Tak's just seem to have the best electronics... but they are no collector pieces thats for sure...Music as a business ie "giging" is different then Music as the hobby you love... two different worlds.. and I treat my instruments that way.


Edited by - DeltaJewel on 02/22/2010 20:06:49

sgtp3pp3r - Posted - 02/22/2010:  21:43:46


quote:
Originally posted by DeltaJewel

You guys are right about the bottom end. I do miss that.



When my buyer came to pick up the 12-string, we replaced the light-gauge low E and A strings with heavier-gauge strings from a medium-gauge guitar set, and the bottom end definitely improved. But I used the same trick on my jumbo 12, replacing the .047" low E with a .056". The heavier gauge string definitely does a better job of driving the guitar's soundboard.

--Steve

Fstpicker - Posted - 02/22/2010:  23:54:01


I have owned in the past two wonderful sounding/playing Takamine FP-400S 12-strings, both of which were from 1990. The Japan-made Taks are some of the best sounding Taks I feel.

Jeff

thechordstamper - Posted - 02/24/2010:  20:35:46


I've always had an affinity for the lawsuit taks. I think Steven Stills plays one on their 'Day Light Again' concert video; how's that for dating myself? And even after all the advances in acoustic pickups, I think these are still some of the best sounding when plugged in. Not as 'acoustic' as say the Aura systems but I actually prefer it over any of the Taylor sound systems and/or most from other brands - very solid & rich.

sgtp3pp3r - Posted - 02/25/2010:  11:57:35


quote:
Originally posted by thechordstamper

I've always had an affinity for the lawsuit taks. I think Steven Stills plays one on their 'Day Light Again' concert video; how's that for dating myself? And even after all the advances in acoustic pickups, I think these are still some of the best sounding when plugged in. Not as 'acoustic' as say the Aura systems but I actually prefer it over any of the Taylor sound systems and/or most from other brands - very solid & rich.



I took a look inside my EF360S and the doodad in there looks sorta like the L R Baggs iBeam system pickup. But I agree - nothing I've played has a better pickup than the one in that Takamine. The guitar I play at the church (which I built) has a K & K Pure Western with a Belcat preamp mounted in the side wall of the guitar. That system is just as good, but not better.

--Steve


Edited by - sgtp3pp3r on 02/25/2010 11:58:20

thechordstamper - Posted - 02/25/2010:  16:58:15


quote:
Originally posted by sgtp3pp3r

quote:
Originally posted by thechordstamper

I've always had an affinity for the lawsuit taks. I think Steven Stills plays one on their 'Day Light Again' concert video; how's that for dating myself? And even after all the advances in acoustic pickups, I think these are still some of the best sounding when plugged in. Not as 'acoustic' as say the Aura systems but I actually prefer it over any of the Taylor sound systems and/or most from other brands - very solid & rich.



I took a look inside my EF360S and the doodad in there looks sorta like the L R Baggs iBeam system pickup. But I agree - nothing I've played has a better pickup than the one in that Takamine. The guitar I play at the church (which I built) has a K & K Pure Western with a Belcat preamp mounted in the side wall of the guitar. That system is just as good, but not better.

--Steve



I took one of the older tak systems apart and found, at least on mine, that there were six individual sensors, one under each string and that each sensor was seperated. I also bought an older LR Baggs pickup (the original with the bone material and pickup is all one unit/glued together (the pickup James Taylor uses) and then filed down the 'bone' (or whatever it is they use) to see what was there. I also found they had used 6 individual sensors (one under each string) but theirs just didn't sound the same - even through the same tak preamp. I've also had the K&K and like them a lot but still prefer the tak's plugged in hands down - but that's jut MHO.


Edited by - thechordstamper on 02/25/2010 16:59:18

forksken - Posted - 02/25/2010:  23:25:54


My first "real gig" guitar was a an early 70"s tak I bought used back around 72. It was the dread style made in japan and I was often asked if it was a martin.The sound was similar to the d-series martins but the action was"nt quite as good. got about 8 years of hard use before the bridge started to come off. had that repaired and it was going strong when I sold it during hard times around 89.great workhorse for the time and would buy another if I ever come across one for a reasonable price. (of course I would have the action and neck set right this time) :0

sgtp3pp3r - Posted - 02/26/2010:  21:05:06


quote:
Originally posted by thechordstamper
I took one of the older tak systems apart and found, at least on mine, that there were six individual sensors, one under each string and that each sensor was seperated. I also bought an older LR Baggs pickup (the original with the bone material and pickup is all one unit/glued together (the pickup James Taylor uses) and then filed down the 'bone' (or whatever it is they use) to see what was there. I also found they had used 6 individual sensors (one under each string) but theirs just didn't sound the same - even through the same tak preamp. I've also had the K&K and like them a lot but still prefer the tak's plugged in hands down - but that's jut MHO.



I agree - the K&K Pure Western by itself is not as good as the Tak system - but when you add the Belcat onboard preamp, you get the same ability to shape the tone that the Tak system has. Works really well. IMHO.

--Steve

fiddlepogo - Posted - 03/14/2010:  23:50:20


quote:
Originally posted by BoMac

I believe I have one of those lawsuit guitars from Takamine. It's a 1980 model # F-340-S. Has some wear but plays really well.



I had one of those- great sounding guitar!!! Same year I think!!!
It sounded tight when I got it, but thrashing it in long practices with a band really opened it up.


Edited by - fiddlepogo on 03/14/2010 23:53:47

takf340s - Posted - 04/12/2010:  19:17:18


I have a 1978 takamine f340s which I purchased new in 1980. For the most part it sat around the house in its case- I only played it a few times a year. A couple of years ago I started playing again. I had the original factory action lowered, new bridge pins put in, and a Martin thinline undersaddle pickup installed. I also have been using Cleartone Bluegrass strings- the larger diameter bass strings have done wonders for the low end. The luthier who works on my guitar has shown me a couple of F340S's that have come through his shop. Some of them have a major amount of work done. I guess their owners feel that the repairs are worth the expense.

adaptolife - Posted - 04/18/2010:  05:47:29


someone I know has a 1980 Takamine 400S that I have been looking at for 2 years. The body is in good shape, bit there is a crack on the head. The damage was unprofessionally repaired, but I don't think the damage will affect tunability or playability. Not as much as the tuners that is; they are worn, and the gold plating is worn on tuners. The neck is in good shape other than that. I am going to offer them $150. I was not aware of the "lawsuit" factor until yesterday. Any idea what this guitar is worth, and if anyone has parts for them?

takf340s - Posted - 04/18/2010:  07:16:19


I saw a 1980 takamine f400S on the internet for $350- it was listed as "mint" condition. If you're not worried about keeping the guitar in original condition any new tuners will work.

matrix - Posted - 04/19/2010:  20:13:07


i have a G series 535SC 12 string that I use as a 6 string great loud full sound comes from it. I used to have one of the lawsuit D-35 copys. Wish i still had it.

g.macdonnell - Posted - 04/28/2010:  15:52:28


I've been ranting and raving about Takamine's to any picker that'll listen for a long time, but especially since they unleashed the Flatpicker guitars in the Tradesman series. Brad Davis, (a fine picker one of my favorites,) really helped them knock it out of the park. I always thought they were great working guitars, but now I don't qualify it, I think they're just phenomenal guitars period.

I honestly think they compare acoustically and quality-wise with guitars costing 2-5 times the cost, (believe me, I've done a lot of comparing!)

That they paid such attention to minuscule detail says a lot about Takamine. And when you add in their state-of-the-art, best in the world electronics you've got a real winner on your hands.

I've spent a small fortune on pickups and preamps, but I've never found anything that beats the Tak Palathetic pickup, especially with a Cooltube and a Tri-Ax for good measure!

I still love Martins and Gallagher's, but I haven't heard a better sounding new dreadnought from any builder. let alone one that sounds even close plugged in.


Long live Taks!


Edited by - g.macdonnell on 05/02/2010 09:01:01



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